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you have these leadership changes in china and japan next week, and it gives them a leg up in coming back to the negotiating table as a stronger country because they've demonstrated this long-range technolo technology. >> so you look back at april and the embarrassing failed launch. it has a lot of people wondering how this successful launch could come so quickly on the heels of the other, and it also has people asking who may be helping north korea at this time. obviously, iran enters into the picture when people do discuss this. is this something that is a game change for us in terms of how to deal with north korea and iran at the same time? >> i think it's a pretty big deal. the april launch was not successful, but if you track their launches going back to 2006, the 2006 and particularly the 2009 tests were fairly successful. so the fact that this one came about, whatever happened in april was something, some mechanical problem was catastrophic, but this test was clearly a success. yes, there is cooperation between iran and north korea. every north korean missile that they have pr
you have these leadership changes in china and japan next week, and it gives them a leg up in coming back to the negotiating table as a stronger country because they've demonstrated this long-range technolo technology. >> so you look back at april and the embarrassing failed launch. it has a lot of people wondering how this successful launch could come so quickly on the heels of the other, and it also has people asking who may be helping north korea at this time. obviously, iran enters...
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if we want to compete with china by lower ourselves to the standards that they have that is just not the way that america is going to lead the world. it's not going to be the way that we feed our people. i read an article in salon that says that michigan has given up and it will become a service-own state. >> eliot: it's a shame to watch. one last question, there is much commentary, and rightly so, that these have been rammed through a lame duck legislature. would these bills have passed next year, what do you think would they have been able to do this? >> i think it would be a lot of tougher. there are a number of republicans who have close ties to labor but you know, the other weird thing, eliot because they were jammed through in the space of two days by using those maneuvers to do it, you'll never know the answer because nobody had a chance to work on people, to comment whether they would be persuaded. >> eliot: governor granholm, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thanks, eliot. (vo) this friday current tv presents a special event. >> nobody knows disasters like comedians. tha
if we want to compete with china by lower ourselves to the standards that they have that is just not the way that america is going to lead the world. it's not going to be the way that we feed our people. i read an article in salon that says that michigan has given up and it will become a service-own state. >> eliot: it's a shame to watch. one last question, there is much commentary, and rightly so, that these have been rammed through a lame duck legislature. would these bills have passed...
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china with a knife with 22 injured children. not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings as possible like in a military situation. no one can object to a ban on the sale of large ammunition clips so you can't reload. no one can object to microstamping of card ridges to trace the murder weapon. no one can object to eliminating the gunshot exception so even if you buy a gun at a gun show, they still have to check your background to make sure they are not selling to someone on a terrorist watch list or mentally unstable person or a felon. those ares we should do. >> we had a heated debate on a previous incident. two things happened in 1996. athere w
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-china cooperation. a negative scenario would be where the two countries start working at cross purposes with each other and cannot communicate, cannot resolve the problems that exist between them. that would be something we seriously have to be concerned about. >> donald, so, i mean, okay. there is all the talk and maybe mutual interest and cooperation and there's talk about china catching or surpassing the united states as a superpower in the world, whatever that means. when you look at what that's meant for the u.s., you have troops, military bases, tangled up in geo political stuff across the globe. what kind of superpower does china want to be? >> well, china does not in my opinion want to be the kind of superpower that we normally think of in a military and strategic sense when we use that term. actually, the report that just came out said that the u.s. would remain dominant as the leading power in 2030. it was not as if -- it is not if the chinese are seeking or will replace the united states. tha
-china cooperation. a negative scenario would be where the two countries start working at cross purposes with each other and cannot communicate, cannot resolve the problems that exist between them. that would be something we seriously have to be concerned about. >> donald, so, i mean, okay. there is all the talk and maybe mutual interest and cooperation and there's talk about china catching or surpassing the united states as a superpower in the world, whatever that means. when you look at...
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nobody here -- are they going to break china? >> probably not unless there's a greater scandal that brings a lot of stuff to light. this is the way the republicans organize their consultants. it's a monopoly even in the polling industry, they have two pollsters who do 75%, 80% of their business. that was a big part of the problem in the last cycle. >> maria? >> more in memory of jenni rivera who passed away. incredible supporter of the latino community. we're going to miss her. >> two friends got married this weekend, congratulations. >> you are in that wedding zone. >> fascinating recap of the convention. that's from all the campaign managers last week. it's going to be out in the book in a week. >> i love that. it's always a fun book. oral history of -- >> oral history. >> it always is. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." see you here tomorrow. chris jansing is next.
nobody here -- are they going to break china? >> probably not unless there's a greater scandal that brings a lot of stuff to light. this is the way the republicans organize their consultants. it's a monopoly even in the polling industry, they have two pollsters who do 75%, 80% of their business. that was a big part of the problem in the last cycle. >> maria? >> more in memory of jenni rivera who passed away. incredible supporter of the latino community. we're going to miss...
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china with a knife with 22 injured children. not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings as possible like in a military situation. no one can object to a ban on the sale of large ammunition clips so you can't reload. no one can object to mic microstamping of card ridges to trace the murder weapon. no one can object to eliminating the gunshot exception so even if you buy a gun at a gun show, they still have to check your background to make sure they are not selling to someone on a terrorist watch list or mentally unstable person or a felon. those ares we should do. >> we had a heated debate on a previous incident. two things happened in 1996. ther
china with a knife with 22 injured children. not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings as...
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by 2030, china will be the largest economy. they base it on the size of the economy, population, military spending, and investment in technology. >>> our fourth story, selling a fix. with just 2 d2 days until the fiscal cliff kicks in and we all go sailing off. we're hearing a lot of talk between the president and house speaker. apparently, these are behind closed doors because they're talking over or at or something not good at each other. here is president obama in detroit on his plan to raise taxes on families making more than $250,000 a year. >> that's a principle i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all our tax breaks. >> is the tough talk road show working for the president tonight? ben is a former press secretary for the obama campaign. he had a vacation that's why he looks healthy now. and republican strategist terry holt. good to see both of you. terry, i want to start with you. the most recent poll we have says by a margin o
by 2030, china will be the largest economy. they base it on the size of the economy, population, military spending, and investment in technology. >>> our fourth story, selling a fix. with just 2 d2 days until the fiscal cliff kicks in and we all go sailing off. we're hearing a lot of talk between the president and house speaker. apparently, these are behind closed doors because they're talking over or at or something not good at each other. here is president obama in detroit on his...
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cenk: oh, my god, they're moving all the jeep jobs to china. then the ceo put out a statement. i feel obliged to state our position. jeep production will not be used tofrom the united states to children. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. they knew it wasn't true, and even after this statement mitt romney kept saying over and over again, they're going to move all the jeep jobs to china. can you believe it? so that wound up being lie of the year for political fact. they asked readers to pick out the top lies of the year. the top five. here's the first one. >> what we now have is the biggest tax increase in the history of the world. obama-care is just a massive tax increase. that's all it is. >> cenk: that's awesome. the biggest tax increase in the history of the world. now the reeders picked that number one biggest lie now number two was this one. >> if you got a business, you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen. >> my father's hands didn't build this company? my hands didn't build this company? >> through hard work an
cenk: oh, my god, they're moving all the jeep jobs to china. then the ceo put out a statement. i feel obliged to state our position. jeep production will not be used tofrom the united states to children. it is inaccurate to suggest anything different. they knew it wasn't true, and even after this statement mitt romney kept saying over and over again, they're going to move all the jeep jobs to china. can you believe it? so that wound up being lie of the year for political fact. they asked...
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in china with a knife. 22 injured children. injured, not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings as possible like in a military situation. no one can object to a ban on the sale of large ammunition clips so you can't reload. no one can object to microstamping of cartridges so you can trace the weapon. no one can reasonably object to eliminating the gun show exception so that even if you buy a gun at a gun show they have to check your background to make sure you are not selling a gun to a mentally unstable person, or a felon. those ares we should do. >> we had a heated debate on a previous incident. two things happened in 1996. there was a massac
in china with a knife. 22 injured children. injured, not dead. that's the difference. in the united states we have 9,000 people killed with guns last year in similar countries like germany, 170 and canada 150. there is a reason for that. >> what would you like to see in terms of specific gun control? >> there a number of pieces of legislation we have been pushing. no reasonable gun owner who is a sportsman can object to bans on assault weapons made only to kill as many human beings...
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to china. but obviously that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered themselves enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think this ended up backfiring on them. they were desperate at that point. they were desperate to win ohio. i think it was net loss. they got killed, as you say, and it back fired. >> i think it's one of the things that worked the other way. whiplash against it. thank you, great reporting. when we return, let me finish with the ultimate triumph this year. believe it or not, of truth. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together
to china. but obviously that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered themselves enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think this ended up backfiring on them. they were desperate at that point. they were desperate to win ohio. i think it was net loss. they got killed, as you say, and it back fired. >> i think it's one of the things that worked the other way. whiplash against it. thank you, great...
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to china. but obviously that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered themselves enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think this ended up backfiring on them. they were desperate at that point. they were desperate to win ohio. i think it was net loss. they got killed, as you say, and it back fired. >> i think it's one of the things that worked the other way. whiplash against it. thank you, great reporting. when we return, let me finish with the ultimate triumph this year. believe it or not, of truth. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> let me finish tonight with this. memory is a fascinating thing. what we choose to hang on to, what hangs on in our mind, no matter what we choose. if you're like me, you remember the big ones. you remember the president's bad night in that first debate. actually, that's one i tried hard to get out of my mind. it's punishing just to think about. you remember the oddness of watching mitt romney stand in fr
to china. but obviously that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered themselves enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think this ended up backfiring on them. they were desperate at that point. they were desperate to win ohio. i think it was net loss. they got killed, as you say, and it back fired. >> i think it's one of the things that worked the other way. whiplash against it. thank you, great...
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. >>> then china's new leaders. we know their names but who are they and what can we expect from them. is this china's gorbachev or will he take a hard line? >>> finally, the black swan, a best seller some say prediktsd the economic crisis. its author on his fascinating new book. >>> and the next phase of europe's crisis. which nations might find themselves split apart. i'll explain. >>> first, here is my take. arafat's body has been exhumed for investigation. bringing back memories of the unpredictable palestinian leader. the news broke at a time when a conventional wisdom has begun to take hold that the middle east today is much more dangerous, unstable, violent and anti-american than before. let's take a look at facts. in the 1980s the newly empowered radical islamic republic of iran unsettled the region with its promise to spread its revolution elsewhere. lebanon was in the midst of a bloody civil war. that engulfed itself and the palestinians and israel. iran and iraq fought a gruesome war with over one million
. >>> then china's new leaders. we know their names but who are they and what can we expect from them. is this china's gorbachev or will he take a hard line? >>> finally, the black swan, a best seller some say prediktsd the economic crisis. its author on his fascinating new book. >>> and the next phase of europe's crisis. which nations might find themselves split apart. i'll explain. >>> first, here is my take. arafat's body has been exhumed for...
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i would say unions have an opportunity globally especially in countries that are now growing, like china to be able to level the playing field a little bit. but in addition to unions organizing the unorganized, what about people who are not in a union who are watching this and feel discouraged, like you feel in a way, but what can we do to push back against that? >> yeah i hope i don't sound too discouraged i'm just mad -- >> jennifer: you are revving up so you are starting to sound better. >> well, it was just heart breaking listening to your description of what happened to my town sitting here. but listen if you are watching this at home and you are discouraged and you are feeling we just reelected barack obama, what the heck is going on? you have to get involved yourself. go down and join your local democratic party in your county or town. i can guarantee you if you show up at next month's meeting of the county or town democrats, there won't be ten people there. bring ten of your friends and you will become your county's democratic party. >> jennifer: and a lot of them will be old peo
i would say unions have an opportunity globally especially in countries that are now growing, like china to be able to level the playing field a little bit. but in addition to unions organizing the unorganized, what about people who are not in a union who are watching this and feel discouraged, like you feel in a way, but what can we do to push back against that? >> yeah i hope i don't sound too discouraged i'm just mad -- >> jennifer: you are revving up so you are starting to sound...
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it is important china did come out and condemn this. north korea probably listens to china more than anybody else, but i do think the international community needs to make good on the consequences. >> what's the concern now, they have a nuclear test, they have a real delivery system? >> it's still many years to get, or at least some years, to get a ballistics capability to threaten us, but these things tend to come in cycles, and so it's not a good sign that they are starting down the provocation road again. >> given how heavily sanctioned they are, why are they doing this? >> this is really about shoring up the son's transmission, his ability to control the military to exert power, to have influence. this is really for domestic consumption more than anything else at this point. >> should we put a lot of pressure on china? we have a new chinese leader. that relationship is so important to us, but is this more important, should we really be pressing the chinese to take a tough line? >> this is an opportunity to engage the new leadership
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and you're going to see india, its growth by 2030, will be like china is today. that will be that big, huge democracy. >> before anybody's freaking out and transferring their children into all mandarin-speaking schools, we are not going to be in dire straits. we are still going to be a big influence in the global landscape, right? >> absolutely. you're going -- absolutely, no question. but it's going to be, well, one of the quotes from the story is basically that the pacs americana will be over and you're going to see not that one power dominating everything, it's going to be middle classes around the world and more of a balanced power around the world. one thing that's interesting about this, you will have competition for jobs that will create middle classes. it will be pressure on western countries and their middle classes. because around the world, you've got hundreds of millions of people who will be coming up out of poverty, who will want to be in the middle class and have the technology to do those jobs that are we're doing now. >> there's a great read in "
and you're going to see india, its growth by 2030, will be like china is today. that will be that big, huge democracy. >> before anybody's freaking out and transferring their children into all mandarin-speaking schools, we are not going to be in dire straits. we are still going to be a big influence in the global landscape, right? >> absolutely. you're going -- absolutely, no question. but it's going to be, well, one of the quotes from the story is basically that the pacs americana...
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. >> china is an ally and expressed regret over the launch. we report that north korea may have up to a few dozen nuclear weapons that could be fitted on top of ballistic missiles. just in the past hour, police in oregon gave us an update on the mall shooting that left three people dead. we are learning the identity of the shooter. plus as the administration deals with the new laws legalizing marijuana in washington and colorado, former president jimmy carter weighs in on legalizing pot. >> i'm in favor of it. i think it's okay. >> that by the way is one of the things we thought you should know. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh, this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15, seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. that pork chop was great! no more fast food friday's! we're going to go to red lobster. yep. [
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if their economy begins to slow down and they can't do that, there is a lot of unrest in china today. i mean just to take one example, in social media, you know, there are thousands and thousands of demonstrations and riots in china every year, many of them in rural areas, well to paraphrase the old ad, it used to be that what happened this the village stayed in the village. >> rose: nobody knew? >> nobody knew, but now, it is all over the country. in terms of what is going on and how they managed that, i think is a challenge they have. i think they have some big, big challenges, just give you one other example. in the last ten years, a population the equivalent of great britain germany and france has moved from the country side to the cities two, hundred million people. and they don't have the same status as those who live there of initially, officially, you have an urban middle class 300 million people and growing .. this is a society that has got a lot of pushes and pulls going on, and my worry is that if they find it difficult to manage that, they resort to nationalism, you have s
if their economy begins to slow down and they can't do that, there is a lot of unrest in china today. i mean just to take one example, in social media, you know, there are thousands and thousands of demonstrations and riots in china every year, many of them in rural areas, well to paraphrase the old ad, it used to be that what happened this the village stayed in the village. >> rose: nobody knew? >> nobody knew, but now, it is all over the country. in terms of what is going on and...
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was laid off in 2010 from work, cindy then took time off work to care for the baby they adopted from china, and they were hoping to adopt another child, but finances were tight and so on. now of course they can afford to do all this. but they seem very decent, i say ordinary, i don't mean ordinary in any kind of negative way, i just mean regular americans. >> yes. they are very grounded. they have strong bonds with their family. they really enjoy their family. they will definitely take care of their family now. >> let's play a little clip, this is of cindy, who bought the ticket, at the press conference earlier. >> i didn't have my glasses and i was thinking is that the right numbers, is that the right numbers? and i was shaking and i called my husband, i said i think i'm having a heart attack, god blessed us with this. and for some reason, he put it in our hands. i think to make sure that it goes to the right things. and -- but we were blessed before we ever won this. >> how do you guys find out about this, walt? >> since we're pretty familiar in the community, several people in the commu
was laid off in 2010 from work, cindy then took time off work to care for the baby they adopted from china, and they were hoping to adopt another child, but finances were tight and so on. now of course they can afford to do all this. but they seem very decent, i say ordinary, i don't mean ordinary in any kind of negative way, i just mean regular americans. >> yes. they are very grounded. they have strong bonds with their family. they really enjoy their family. they will definitely take...
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an american-made camaro, but this one was made in china. and then talking about all the american cars he owns. >> i like the fact that the the cars that i see are american made. i drive a chevy pickup truck and ana drives an cadillac: >> cenk: and he was seen driving an audi. let's go back to petraeus, fox news we'll back you up. >> there was an edict sent out by president of the news network, who has said to all the producers of the shows you need explicit permission to book dick morris or karl rove. you cannot just put them on any more because they were so wrong and so off on the elections. that's what politico is reporting, that this is how fox is changing things. no more karl rove and no more dick morris without a note from teacher. >> cenk: that's interesting. that was your movement to fire dick morris. >> yeah, i had a hash tag to fire dick morris. >> cenk: and you know what, we're going to make sure that he's off the air. >> if i had only taped it. they called and i forgot to push record. >> cenk: i'm jumping around here but. another
an american-made camaro, but this one was made in china. and then talking about all the american cars he owns. >> i like the fact that the the cars that i see are american made. i drive a chevy pickup truck and ana drives an cadillac: >> cenk: and he was seen driving an audi. let's go back to petraeus, fox news we'll back you up. >> there was an edict sent out by president of the news network, who has said to all the producers of the shows you need explicit permission to book...
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the market getting a little nervous about competition particularly in the china market. is it possible that nokia may have a crowd pleaser in the future to take on the iphone? i don't know. it is something analysts are chewing over and it's another reason why apple had another rocky day in the markets. >> jeff cutmore live from london. thank you. >>> there are alarming new developments involving the crisis in syria. pentagon sources tell nbc news there is specific intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas, a deadly nerve agent, into aerial bombs and is awaiting command from president assad for its use. it comes as the fighting grows more intense and the rebels continue to advance into the capital city of damascus. yesterday secretary of state hillary clinton repeated her warning that the u.s. is ready to take swift action. >> our concerns are that increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. we have sent an unmistakable message that
the market getting a little nervous about competition particularly in the china market. is it possible that nokia may have a crowd pleaser in the future to take on the iphone? i don't know. it is something analysts are chewing over and it's another reason why apple had another rocky day in the markets. >> jeff cutmore live from london. thank you. >>> there are alarming new developments involving the crisis in syria. pentagon sources tell nbc news there is specific intelligence...
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i don't think it was substantive right to talk about designating china as a currency manipulator on the first day in office. that's not going to cure the problem. and especially since 2006 t chinese economy has risen by 26% against the dollar and that's not going to cure our trade deficit with china. we need to save more in this country and w count country and we need to get a handle on this deficit problem. but ronald reagan didn't get us into any wars, we had a police action in grenada, in eight years, that was it, yeah, you got to be strong, you got to maintain a strong national defense, fight against budget cuts and so forth. but unless there's a very large national interest involved, it can -- it's sometimes very counter productive to engage in some of these activities overseas, where right now, for instance, there's a lot of pressure on president obama to intervene militarily in syria, that would be the worst thing in the world we could do in my opinion. we should support the syrian opposition, politically, diplomatically, economically, but not militarily, because t t that's a sli
i don't think it was substantive right to talk about designating china as a currency manipulator on the first day in office. that's not going to cure the problem. and especially since 2006 t chinese economy has risen by 26% against the dollar and that's not going to cure our trade deficit with china. we need to save more in this country and w count country and we need to get a handle on this deficit problem. but ronald reagan didn't get us into any wars, we had a police action in grenada, in...
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to happen in greece and we don't know what's going to have in the euro zone and the energy needs in china and india and industrialized nations. what do you think is the biggest threat from the outside to the u.s. economy? >> the fiscal cliff. first of all i think there are issues that are beginning to improve and, you know, whether you look at the euro zone which is making progress, gradually, laboriously and certainly improving and with good numbers because if you look at thinge ia because if you look at thinge a greg gat euro zone debt, and you have political stability back now that the new team is in place so the volatility and the instability factors that are outside have reduced. the real threat that we have at the moment is really here with us and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at, i mean i understood that the european banks had sort of downsized or downgraded what they thought would be growth. you've got more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here. >> yeah yeah. >> are those things threats to the u.s. economy or do you think the u
to happen in greece and we don't know what's going to have in the euro zone and the energy needs in china and india and industrialized nations. what do you think is the biggest threat from the outside to the u.s. economy? >> the fiscal cliff. first of all i think there are issues that are beginning to improve and, you know, whether you look at the euro zone which is making progress, gradually, laboriously and certainly improving and with good numbers because if you look at thinge ia...
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so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. who does have influence over pyongyang? even the chinese are quite frustrated but at the same time i would imagine that they are also not willing to completely abandon the north koreans because they don't want to see instability along their border. that is something they don't want to see. so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. >> all right, victor cha and spyder marks, thank you to you both for your perspective on th
so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. who does have influence over pyongyang? even the chinese are quite frustrated but at the same time i would imagine that they are also not...
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syria, egypt and afghanistan are just the foreign policy challenges we already know about russia out china and there which brings us to the big question this week -- will the president's second term triumphs be abroad or here at home? >> i think his second term will be defined by foreign policy and looming confrontation over iran. chris: politco has spoken. >> despite all of the domestic issues, he will have a bigger role to play on the world stage and brought into that with events whether it be syria, iran. >> leadership just changed in china for the first time in 10 years, the most important economic relationship we have in the world and he's got to make headway there to make sure they stay on their reform path so they continue to grow and the world economy will be stronger. >> i agree, it's unanimous, the big foreign policy challenges are coming at him. he can't avoid them. he's got to deal with iran, he's got to deal with syria, he's got to deal with afghanistan. chris: do we have a chance with iran? everybody worries about this -- do we have a chance to stop them from nuclear weaponni
syria, egypt and afghanistan are just the foreign policy challenges we already know about russia out china and there which brings us to the big question this week -- will the president's second term triumphs be abroad or here at home? >> i think his second term will be defined by foreign policy and looming confrontation over iran. chris: politco has spoken. >> despite all of the domestic issues, he will have a bigger role to play on the world stage and brought into that with events...
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in 2010 28 children and two teachers were stabbed in china, so this level of violence, both in china situations were in elementary schools. we have to deal with the overall concept of violence because it can, obviously, be done with handguns, as we saw today with knives as china was today. >> clint making a very important point that this is not simply about guns and gun control, but a cull toor of violence that is, unfortunately, international. we are expecting a news conference from connecticut state police at 1:00 p.m. eastern. we will bring that to you live ahead, but, first, we are going to get a live update from wnbc's jonathan dietz, more breaking news after the break. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ breathes deeply ] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! at legalzoom, we've created a better place to handle your legal needs. maybe you hav
in 2010 28 children and two teachers were stabbed in china, so this level of violence, both in china situations were in elementary schools. we have to deal with the overall concept of violence because it can, obviously, be done with handguns, as we saw today with knives as china was today. >> clint making a very important point that this is not simply about guns and gun control, but a cull toor of violence that is, unfortunately, international. we are expecting a news conference from...
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that chrysler was going to begin making jeeps in china. >> for chinese. >> right. right. it made perfect sense. a lot of auto-companies do this. obviously, that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered thems enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think they were desperate to win ohio. maybe it was a net loss. >> i think it's one of those things like voter suppression. whiplash against it. thank you so much, michael. thank you, jonathan. same with you. when we return, let me finish with the ultimate triumph this year of, believe it or not. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it.
that chrysler was going to begin making jeeps in china. >> for chinese. >> right. right. it made perfect sense. a lot of auto-companies do this. obviously, that's the clear implication of the ad. so the fundamental message is a lie. they just covered thems enough with the language. maybe they thought they wouldn't get called out on it. i think they were desperate to win ohio. maybe it was a net loss. >> i think it's one of those things like voter suppression. whiplash against...
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china's numbers have improved lately, and you have political stability back. so the volatility of the instability factors that are outside have reduced overtime. the real threat that we have is here, with us, and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at -- i understand that bangs being downsides our down afraided, you have more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here, are those things threats to the u.s. economy, or do you think it is now destabilizing, or has the potential to destabilize the world economy? >> i think because it is relatively closed, it trades with itself and immediate neighbors, is less vulnerable to what happens outside, for instance in europe. but, the consequences would be relatively minor. it is more exposed to it's own difficulties, and it's own issues, than to what happens elsewhere in the world, because it is such a large player. >> so we're our own 5,000 pound gor ri gorilla. >> let me ask you as a final question, january 2nd arrives, no deal, what will we notice first? >> lack of citizen, m
china's numbers have improved lately, and you have political stability back. so the volatility of the instability factors that are outside have reduced overtime. the real threat that we have is here, with us, and that can be addressed. >> but when you look at -- i understand that bangs being downsides our down afraided, you have more than 11% unemployment in the euro zone, which is a good deal higher than here, are those things threats to the u.s. economy, or do you think it is now...
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how do we work with our allies in china and asia? where has the pentagon taken powers that maybe need to go back to the civilian agencies? those are three enormous jobs that require you to work well with congress, to work well with the defense industry, to be trusted with our men and women in uniform and to have a really close relationship with the president. that's a big job description. >> so if we paint this sort of job description as guiding the pentagon through that period, it sounds like reimagining. how do you see the strengths and weakness of the front runners? >> the first thing to say about senator hagel is he clearly has a very strong personal relationship with the president, which is something you really want. he's also a decorated war hero, saved lives of his company mates in vietnam and is really well respected by folks in the military, which matters. which matters a lot. michelle flourney may be one of the pre-intellectuals of our generation, and for her whole career, she's been thinking about how do you reimagine the
how do we work with our allies in china and asia? where has the pentagon taken powers that maybe need to go back to the civilian agencies? those are three enormous jobs that require you to work well with congress, to work well with the defense industry, to be trusted with our men and women in uniform and to have a really close relationship with the president. that's a big job description. >> so if we paint this sort of job description as guiding the pentagon through that period, it sounds...
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the meantime is that, well, we had an eruption, collapse of the soviet union industrial period and china going up significantly in their industrial evolution, we'll call it, and though we're 30, 37% lower than where we could have been, this whole thing changes and the climate's right, models have been right. this is an exciting time for rest of the 20 years of that model and what it says for climate change and the climate modelers obviously tweaking it, understand that was 1990 model. you can probably run that same model on your blackberry, considering what the computers looked like and what we have now. we should considerably get more accurate. one more thing, by the way, to go back to jay leno, i think jay missed the story that we had here on cnn when they found the next 8,000 years of the mayan calendar. so we're good for 8,000 years and ten days. >> good. >> they found the rest. >> relieved. i don't have to check things off the bucket list. chad, thank you. >>> former president jimmy carter weighing in on global warming. >> we need to have consistency in america in committing ourselv
the meantime is that, well, we had an eruption, collapse of the soviet union industrial period and china going up significantly in their industrial evolution, we'll call it, and though we're 30, 37% lower than where we could have been, this whole thing changes and the climate's right, models have been right. this is an exciting time for rest of the 20 years of that model and what it says for climate change and the climate modelers obviously tweaking it, understand that was 1990 model. you can...
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they used to produce a lot in china. they've decide wages are too high in china. they moved toward bangladesh which has the world's lowest minimum wage for a country that does serious manufacturing about $37 a month. and walmart sears other countries look to bangladesh because they want to produce apparel at the very lowest cost and they're worried if they invest a lot more in, say in wages or fire safety, that might force them to pay $5 a shirt rather than $4 a shirt and they worry that will make them competitive. my sense is having to talk to experts is western companies import about $18 billion worth of apparel each year from bangladesh and it might cost a billion or $2 billion to get several thousand apparel factories in shape to prevent fires, to provide fire escapes to provide good, safe stairways for people to come down. and i think the thinking is that might raise the price of apparel by 2%, 3%, which wouldn't kill us if we have to pay 50 cents more for a $20 shirt. >> jennifer: that's the issue. return on investment. cost benefit analysis that these compa
they used to produce a lot in china. they've decide wages are too high in china. they moved toward bangladesh which has the world's lowest minimum wage for a country that does serious manufacturing about $37 a month. and walmart sears other countries look to bangladesh because they want to produce apparel at the very lowest cost and they're worried if they invest a lot more in, say in wages or fire safety, that might force them to pay $5 a shirt rather than $4 a shirt and they worry that will...
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that's not going to cure our trade sef sit with china. we need to save more in this country and we deed to get a handle on this great big debt bomb that we've got out there if you want to soothe that problem. ronald reagan didn't get into any war. we had a police action in eight years. that was it. yeah, you've got to be strong, maintain a strong national defense, fight against budget cuts and so forth, but unless there's a very large national interest involved sometimes it's very counterproductive to engage in these overseas events. that would be the worst thing in the world we could do in my opinion. we should support the syrian opposition politically, diplomatically, economically, but not militarily brks but that's a slippery slope once you get into it. >> not even no-fly zone? >> when you do that, you have to take out the anti-aircraft batteries at risk. his government is going to fall. i think the policy that the administration is following on syria is absolutely the right policy to follow and i think the american people are going to
that's not going to cure our trade sef sit with china. we need to save more in this country and we deed to get a handle on this great big debt bomb that we've got out there if you want to soothe that problem. ronald reagan didn't get into any war. we had a police action in eight years. that was it. yeah, you've got to be strong, maintain a strong national defense, fight against budget cuts and so forth, but unless there's a very large national interest involved sometimes it's very...
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so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. >> all right, victor cha and spyder marks, thank you to you both for your perspective on this tonight. do appreciate it. >>> "outfront" next, with just 20 days until the fiscal cliff, both sides are saying very little about progress, which is really what everybody wants. so you would think the ranking member of the senate budget committee knows a thing or two about what's going on, right? you'd be thinking wrong. republican jeff sessions comes out front tonight. >>> also, how far is too far when you're interviewing someone on a sensitive topic? barbara walters asks governor chris christie if he is too fat for the job of president. john avalon's going to weigh in on this one with a little bit of historical perspective. >>> also, a n
so china is really the country that has the most influence, and yet it's very difficult to move them to a place where the united states, japan, south korea, the other members of the six-party talks would like china to go, which is to put more pressure on the north, such that they stop these sorts of provocations and stop their missile and nuclear programs. >> all right, victor cha and spyder marks, thank you to you both for your perspective on this tonight. do appreciate it. >>>...
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veterans and disability group in america. 152 countries have already ratified the treaty including china and russia. the treaty is modelled after existing u.s. law. former senator bob dole is 89 years old. he just got out of the hospital yesterday. and today he kaim to the senate floor in a wheelchair to support the treaty. eight republicans and two independents voted for the treaty including john mccain. but it wasn't enough. the treaty failed 61-38. >> it was solid then. he means it. and i think the organizing around it is so important. the labor movement, consumer groups, women's groups. >> i'm joined by a columnist for the nation magazine and howard fineman, msnbc political analyst. great to have you with us. howard, you first. when bob dole comes to the senate and he can't move people, where is the common sense? >> the senate is lost. that's the way i would put it. bob dole, one of the most revered figures. he's almost literally on his death bed a week or two ago. who commoned the courage to come to the senate to be the conscious on something he championed in 1990. this was senator
veterans and disability group in america. 152 countries have already ratified the treaty including china and russia. the treaty is modelled after existing u.s. law. former senator bob dole is 89 years old. he just got out of the hospital yesterday. and today he kaim to the senate floor in a wheelchair to support the treaty. eight republicans and two independents voted for the treaty including john mccain. but it wasn't enough. the treaty failed 61-38. >> it was solid then. he means it....
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the assumption is china does, but did iran? >> there is all sorts of speculation of who is helping who. north korea has been a big proliferator, but they haven't been successful in producing their own long range rocket. let's make no mistake for officials who said this had nothing to do with launching a weather satellite. they consider this a test of a long range ballistic missile that would ultimately have the capability of carrying a nuclear warhead to the west coast of the united states. u.s. sources tell us that north korea is sitting on dozens and dozens of nuclear weapons. the big question is, have they been able to miniaturize them to fit on a rocket yet. that is still unclear. >> thank you, sir. next, how democrats are trying to pressure republicans by a little politics in the fiscal cliff talks. check this out. >> i think ultimately the federal government shall set forth a uniform pattern of registration in voting so that no citizen will have a problem at this point. >> we are opening up the nbc archives as "meet the p
the assumption is china does, but did iran? >> there is all sorts of speculation of who is helping who. north korea has been a big proliferator, but they haven't been successful in producing their own long range rocket. let's make no mistake for officials who said this had nothing to do with launching a weather satellite. they consider this a test of a long range ballistic missile that would ultimately have the capability of carrying a nuclear warhead to the west coast of the united...
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security council resolution to impose even yet additional sanctions on north korea that all depends on how china reacts to that. and number two, while they continue to test and provoke the united states, we still feel compelled to bail them out on humanitarian assistance because of the starvation of their people. we're caught between foreign policy and the real fear they're going to have a nuclear missile test soon. >> dana, the chair of the house committee on foreign affairs calls this missile launch the result of quote, the obama administration's policies of appeaseme appeasement. i'm sorry to have to ask you this question for about the 9 millionth time. why can't the gop move past its baseless 2012 attack lines and try to think of something constructive to do with this kind of issue? >> right. it feels like -- and it's not just north korea. we heard the same on iran. the cowboy diplomacy saying be tougher. in this case what exactly does that mean? does that mean launch a strike on this nuclear power potentially causing the loss of tens of millions of people. what exactly is the alternative he
security council resolution to impose even yet additional sanctions on north korea that all depends on how china reacts to that. and number two, while they continue to test and provoke the united states, we still feel compelled to bail them out on humanitarian assistance because of the starvation of their people. we're caught between foreign policy and the real fear they're going to have a nuclear missile test soon. >> dana, the chair of the house committee on foreign affairs calls this...